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Martin Grohe
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Abstract: . For any k 3, we prove the following results on theories in the k-variable fragment L k of first-order logic: (1) The so-called L k -invariant is not recursively invertible. (2) There is no recursive bound on the size of the minimal model of a complete L k -theory in terms of its k-size, that is, the number of its L k -types. (3) Assume that NP 6` P=poly. Then there is no P-computatble canonization function for L k -equivalence. Our results answer questions of Dawar [3, 4] and Dawar,... (Update)

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...imply the existence of a logic for ptime on arbitrary structures. What is missing is the ability to efficiently invert k invariants [Gro97] the analog of Theorem 2.2. Of course, the language just described for topological ptime is quite artificial, but serves the purpose of...

...his aforementioned result for L 2 along these lines. Unfortunately, for k 3 the mapping I k is not even recursively invertible [8]. But Dawar et al. 4] had already observed that it is not possible, but also not necessary, to invert I k in time polynomial in the size of...

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M. Grohe. Large finite structures with few L k -types. In Proceedings of the 12th IEEE Symposium on Logic in Computer Science, pages 216--227, 1997. http://citeseer.ist.psu.edu/article/grohe97large.html   More

@inproceedings{ grohe97large,
    author = "Martin Grohe",
    title = "Large Finite Structures with Few L k -Types",
    booktitle = "Logic in Computer Science",
    pages = "216-227",
    year = "1997",
    url = "citeseer.ist.psu.edu/article/grohe97large.html" }
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